@@whatchuwant77 Thats why he has #1 as Question mark …it means dt for him its Telluride as no 1 spot…and i do agree with him…Telluride is far more good looking vehicle as compared to palisade…..
@@udaypradhan1607 I prefer the Pali becsuse of its front end. The Tell looks like a Ford or common and The Pali has a unique two part daytime running lights that go along together. Also there are better colors than white for the Pali.
We drove the Palisade. Beautiful suv. It’s more than we need. We did get a 2020 Santa Fe SEL 2.0t. We absolutely love it. White with the espresso grey interior. Amazing interior. It all feels more up scale then you’d think a Hyundai to be. The 2.0t motor is great and the best choice. Test drive a 2.0t Santa Fe it’s worth a look. We also just got the new 2020 Hyundai Sonata limited. Great car. Love all the tech. Hyundai is changing the game.
This is why people need to stop judging Hyundai for their past and get with the program that they are now a top leading automaker that is reliable and while thought out the uses of its category or segment
What most people don't know (or have forgotten) is that Honda and Toyota introduced junk cars into the US in the 70's, just as Hyundai and Kia did when they entered the US market. Today, Honda and Toyota are living on reputations they earned the hard way . . . from junk to quality vehicles. Today, Hyundai and Kia are putting value filled, attractive and quality built vehicles on the ground, and since I own both Kia (since 2015, a Sorento) and Hundai (since 2003, four Sonatas and one Santa Fe), I can, without reservation, say that they are two of the best brands I have ever owned.
Blake Swan calm down they are newest her wait till honda and toyota redesign helll the korean cant beat honda and toyota sales even though they are old Lol
I own the Hyundai Palisade and it is amazing. I have owned many kinds of vehicles and I look forward to go driving in my Palisade more than any other including my Honda S2000. It is so comfortable, it is very refined and it feels modern. I tried all of these that you have here even the Durango and I hated how old they feel.
@@gigi9467 yeah well if you did any kind of research regarding reliability the Korean cars rank near the top below toyota and subaru notice I didn't say honda... The rest are far below so no they won't break in a few years unlike the vw atlas or Chevy traverse with its garbage automatic
joe kang am trying to save ppl from shitty cars like i tried with My friends and families some listen some didn’t the ones that didn’t pay the price so you could thank me later ha ha
sad here we go again... Where did you get your research from JD Powers and associates you mean that PR firm because that’s what that thing is if you give them enough money they will say whatever you want from the products, Do you serve some real research talk to Real Mechanics with years of experience he’ll talk to the text that work for Hyundai and Kia and even they wouldn’t recommend it try doing some real research not just be a sheep
Digo. I did 6 months in Kuang Ju close to the DMV VMFW 232 ( MARINE fighter jet, honing each others skills,) And have HUGE RESPECT FOR the North Koreans., and there work ethic, TOUGHNESS ect. I want their auto industry & TESLA TO THRIVE.. REST can follow or die out. Sick of their commercials anyway.
Tony Kaye if you’ve seen a few Pilot reviews, you’ll realize that Honda dropped the ball. 2020 Pilot is far inferior to the Telluride, Palisade, Atlas and Explorer.
2020 Subaru Ascent limited is dope! 1. Acceleration is quick if you know how to use it. Use the paddle shifter to down shift and it takes off. 2. The top screen is not necessary but it does gives you a quick glance of other items in the infotainment. Especially when you have someone messing with the infotainment. 3. Beeping alerts. You can disable them! Not a valid complaint. 4) Storage. Are you moving in or driving? The center console is as large as you can gets. Door pockets give you extra storage. Anyone talk about the change tray? The glove box is small so I’ll give you that. 5) Third row seating. Why would you sit back there it’s meant for children?! 6) Plenty of cargo space without the third row. Use a roof rack if you need more. We are four and we learned that we could cut down how much we bring on road trips. 7) Other features. Auto-dim mirrors? Second row window shade. Extra vents in the third row? The kids love their own AC. Less complaining. The Subaru Ascent is easy to drive surprisingly great around corners for its size. I think you should do a test drive with an actual family on all these cars.
Got chance to drive Kia Sorento couple of days ago, I really found the vehicle very practical, the button placement and ergonomically toughtout interior everything in car was very comfortable. Its smaller then the vehicles in the video and lacks cargo space when 3 row is up. Its a smaller telluride with few less bells and whistles. Its very surprising that how well kia has improved in recent years.
People love to hate on Korean long term reliability, but their 10 yr/100k powertrain warranty begs to differ. These are both very solid offerings from both makers!
@@gigi9467 even BMW or Audi mechanics talk shit about their brands. You need to see things more realistic than believe whatever those mechanics say. I trust real world statistics like CR or JD Power rather than your Bullshito.
kiwan82 jd or cr?? Thats who u trust?? Lol those those teo are pr firms not trustworthy reviewers, and am not Talking bout mechanics of their own bronda i mean any mechanic will never tell that korean are better built than a japanese car nor recommnend it, here proof, why do they depreciate so much?? Riddle me that
When you see a Kia Telluride in person, pictures don’t do it justice. It’s gorgeous! Looks so rugged and upscale. Actually better looking and more practical than the Mercedes G-Wagon. Yes I said it! It’s got more reliable and user friendly tech than even the luxury brands. Plus the Hyundai/Kia best warranty in the business, best fuel economy and cheapest to own brand new.
I think the same thing is true about the Palisade - it looks better in person than in pictures, mainly because it's not as big as it might seem. I just picked up a white Limited AWD (had an order for Feb/Mar delivery but someone backed out on a car with the exact spec so the dealership sold it to me) and I truly love this car.
Bob Dylan lol look lets get one thing strait, almost any company can build an ok engine and tranny this days. But the rest is the problem and the reality is that as long as the car turns on ppl dont have the time to take them to get warrantied so they live with it they jusr dont buy them again, but that affects them because no return companies and as a simple Proof is why they depreciate so much. They ares still second rate manufacturers at best.
Owner of the 2020 Palisade here, in the trim shown in the video...OMG i feel like im in AND driving a MUCH more exp vehicle. Traded in a MB GL and this is on par or, dare i say, BETTER!!
@@tonibrown9362 this is where the Palisade loses a few points. My MB was a diesel and I was getting 26-27 mpg on the highway and 17-19 mpg city. In the Palisade I'm getting only 23-25 mpg highway and 17-18 city. The MB is 10yo vehicle so Hyundai has no excuse, but in what you are getting here I can let it go. Also the fact that 80s and 90s cars were giving us better gas mileage than today's.... It's all just marketing scam for us consumers in the end anyway😩😩
Recently took Hyundai Palisade for a ride completely fell in love with it! Exterior design elements like bow type led lights, diamond style exhaust, interior was my favourite! Front console was so ergonomic. No million buttons like a spaceship, minimalist, perfectly placed, very responsive. Steering range shocked me, cause me driving mustang, was able to turn in some sharp angle parking spots. Despite the size I felt in control, not like on Escalade, when I feel like on a cruise ship. I am 6’2’’ and I felt very comfortable there. Most likely will get it in a couple years. Wasn’t surprised with the winner ;)
Kudos to Hyundai and Kia!! To all those Hyundai/Kia haters, y'all keep laughing and bashing but nothing is gonna change for Hyundai and Kia to go on top of the sales chart!!!
Have you tried to lease one of these two vehicles? The lease packages are ridiculous, it appears from the residual value Hyundai believes the vehicle is worthless after a 3 year lease. You can lease an Acadia Denali or a Chevy Traverse High Country or a Cadillac XT6 cheaper!!
Great and thorough review! I just took delivery of a 2021 fully loaded Palisade Calligraphy, and I am absolutely blown away. I drove the other cars just to be sure, and NOTHING came even close to its value, tech, beauty, quality, and features! Except its own cousin, the telluride of course. I chose the palisade because I love the extra bits of nicer features you get. Hyundai/Kia even give you a generous 10 year warranty, and 3 years of complimentary maintenance. Theyre also officially the top 3 row SUVs for resale value. And Hyundai/Kia have dramatically improved in reliability as well. If you buy ANY 3 row SUV other than the palisade or telluride, you are truly missing out
Did anyone hear anything about reliabilty? Why did they stress the Ascent having a small amount of space overall while forgetting to mention the Kia is even smaller, especially in trunk storage? They also quickly glossed over the top two haveing the lowest car seat scores.
@@udaypradhan1607 I bought a used Ascent and for $1099 I'm able to get 72k more powertrain warranty on top of 20k mileage already in the car. Also, as of 2022, Palisade and Telluride will cost upward of $10k-15k more than MSRP. Good lucky getting on that can be of value.
One thing i notice on all of these reviews is that the reviewers always tout the cost of the Kia as being so much less than the competition. That sounds great! When you "build" a vehicle on their respective websites this may be true. Once you walk into a dealership, you'll find that they are marking these things up 5-10k above MSRP right off the bat. The supply is very limited and the demand, probably fueled by so many positive online reviews, is extremely high. I've driven and looked at the new highlander, telluride, ascent, explorer, and pilot. The Kia ends up being the most expensive once you "negotiate" with the dealerships. Your experience may be different, but this is what I experienced in socal.
Thank you for mentioning this. Two years ago we tried to buy a telluride, the prices were even then (this was before everything went insane) above MSRP. Compare that to getting an Atlas and they could go significantly below MSRP
Just a hint for future. Subaru Ascent Owner's Manual is your best friend. Page 115 "Customizing functions". It says that there is a button "Info/SET" on the steering wheel. Park and press it and you can minimize or turn off beeping feature by feature looking on the screen. It's all ON by default but you can adjust it
The Kia Telluride on paper is the cheapest price but here in Southern California they are not. They are being sold for a premium and you get no rebates or incentives. I’d like to add that that is only for the SX or S model because those are the desired trims.
I'm loving my Palisade . I first wanted the Telluride as I preferred the exterior look but after seeing them on the road (seeing them everywhere) I find myself looking to see if its a land rover or kia. I dont want my car compared to another. The Palaside looks very unique.
I agree with these boys... Hands down winners, Hyundai and Kia... Y'all Hyunda/Kia haters keep laughing... Now, who's laughing?? Kia Telluride is da bomb!!! I know 5 out of 10 of my buddies all traded their cars and got this telluride SX!!
@@custer175 well i call that BS, but i would have to respect your choice though! Highlander is way better in terms of quality, features and logevity!, also toyota is outselling any other brand over the years, so i will go with Toyota all day
I have been inside of Telluride and did not like it at all. It felt cheap to me. I ended up getting a Chevy Traverse 2021 and like it so far. It is very comfortable and has a very logical internal layout.
Let's see how kia and Hyundai do well with the engine. Are they going to be dependable like Honda or Toyota? I have 2009 Honda Pilot, over 250k miles and still running like new.
@@djnervs well just to let you know my dad has a 2017 kia forte with over 360k clicks on it and it still drives fine no major repairs so far. You better try one before saying anything
@@bilalsaeed8510 I don't hate the brand. I just know by experience on Hondas and Toyotas my family owns mostly these brands but If your dads Kia is still going strong then that's a good way to get a hell of a rep, I'm all for it bro. Its good to have other options based on that.
Trying not to sound like a Honda fanboy, but all I heard about the Honda was that they put it at last rank. It was average across the board and had an all black interior, as if that puts it below all the negatives brought on by the Chevy and as if you can't get a different a different color/trim. That sounded like "let's just put Honda at the bottom because we can." If it's basically "middle of the road," then it should be in the middle group. Having said that I do NOT like the new Pilots compared to my '03. They've taken away a lot of what makes that car appealing, except improved on the outside styling. I still have my '03 and it's got around 293k miles on it. Space has never been an issue, except in the 3rd row seating, but cargo was unbeaten for the longest time. It's center console has best-in-class space usage (something that messed up after the '04 models.
@@johnconnor4953 It is a superior 4x4 by a mile but its pretty unnecessary for soccer mums. These American SUV's are far nicer family haulers. Although I'd take a station wagon over the lot of them lol
Its nice that y'all review the cars but why does everyone review the top trims if anything most people will buy the second lowest or even the lowest trims.
My wife had a 2013 Traverse. It was a great vehicle. Good in the snow. It was VERY reliable (surprisingly). Over the course of 90,000, we didn't drop a dime on a repair outside of wear items. She loved it. We looked at the new Traverse and it just didn't stack up at all against the vehicle we ended up buying: The Palisade Calligraphy. Short of the Kia, I don't think there is anything close. It is a gorgeous vehicle, rides well and has a ton of tech. We've only owned it two weeks, but as for reliability, I'm not too worried as we have a bumper to bumper, 100,000 mile warranty.
@@johnherrera7551 I was just speaking with a coworker who purchased a Palisade Limited a few months ago. He couldn't believe that my wife and I purchased a Calligraphy cheaper than he paid for his Limited. We paid about $1500 less than he did. LOL
I saw Hyandai and Kia's SUVs for the first time a few months ago. Didn't know they even existed. I did a a very hard double take. And the amazing unique names plasted in them. I really like them. Probably would never get one though.
Aryrix 1 if you like them, why not? I will certainly consider both Telluride and Palisade when my kids will be old enough for us to be able to move off from our minivan in 2-3 years. We love our Honda Odyssey but I don’t like driving it when I am not hauling the whole family.
The Kia Telluride SX is almost impossible to get right now. The wait list to spec one out is about 6 months right now. Plus most dealers in the North East are charging $5,000 to $20,000 over sticker price for the Telluride SXP. You can’t get any discount at all from any dealers across the country for the upper trim levels of the Telluride. All of the other vehicles are easy to get the way you want them and most have massive discounts. This should be a factor in most people’s decision that doesn’t show up in this test.
Crazy to think people are actually paying $5K above MSRP for any vehicle let alone a Kia/Hyundai which none of the reviewers mention the elephant in the room...depreciation which Kia and Hyundai are terrible at.
Yup, they wanted me to pay 5k over one. Their dealerships are usually low end, still same people that sold cheap Kias and Hyundais back in the days where they paid you to take one. They were a bunch of thugs that wanted me to sign papers without knowing what I was getting and even wanted to make me pay for the warranty. If these cars look like an Audi doesn’t mean you get luxury brand experience. Thanks, but I’ll stick to other than Kia and Hyundai, even if I’m getting a “lesser” car.
Been shopping this segment really seriously and have looked at or driven almost all of these excluding the explorer. Palisade is the nicest of the group hands down (then the Kia Telluride). The Subaru, Honda, VW, and Chevy all give a feeling of being in a top trim Impreza, Civic, Jetta, or Cruze and to be honest they're all getting a bit dated feeling inside. The Palisade Limited comes really close to Mercedes or BMW levels or refinement and in some ways surpasses them. The biggest omission here in my opinion is that "Midsize" 3-row segment has really grown into another size all together and these are really more of large SUV's and the Acadia, Sorrento, or Tiguan are more midsize. I did enjoy your points though about the virtual rear view mirrors. Hadn't considered how the human eye would be required to refocus vs a normal mirror. Can certainly see this being an issue for people!
These are all $44-46K on cars dot com right now. While these are limited to economy versions of the name plate, Acura MDX is as low as $51K and Buick Enclave Avenir AWD is probably the best of the bunch at $47K.
I've been looking for cars recently and this is the best damn review I've come across all month. I really wish you would do a video with the Honda Passport and the Mazda CX-9.
I've recently test driven a few of these (Atlas, Palisade, Ascent) and a Durango and I think I'm buying the one you didn't like - the Ascent! I want to be able to tow a small travel trailer - both the Kia and Hyundai's tow packages only come with 4 pin adapters and no brake controller - meaning an extra headache if I wanted to tow anything. The Ascent is pre-wired and read to go - plug and play brake controller. The Durango just felt ... old, with a cramped interior. I also want to own it for a decade or more - the VW isn't likely to last that long. Only time will tell if Kia and Hyundai will. Subaru is likely going to be fine. I drove the Ascent today - definitely didn't feel darty or slow in comparison, seats were perfectly comfortable. Definitely not as luxurious as the Palisade, though. Different strokes for different folks!
Just bought my Ascent and it’s a really nice car that just works. No bells and whistles but sturdy and safe and big enough for me and my two toddlers, not planning on throwing any parties in there. I had the Atlas before and don’t think it drives any better and the interior feels extremely cheap. The only thing I concur with is that the Ascent engine is pretty loud.
@@jackcollin1695 Definitely AWD. I ended up doing what I wasn't expecting at all and bought a truck - towing capacity on any big SUV just wasn't where I needed it for the trailer I ultimately wanted to buy
Honda is dropping the ball on Honda’s and Acura’s. I never hear people tell me they’ve purchased an Acura. According to the CR ratings, Acura is in one of the last three bottom overall ratings for reliability. I find it interesting so many reviewers rank the Atlas so high. It’s ranked low in reliability and lots of plastic. My neighbor bought an Atlas and I wasn’t impressed. Both Korean manufacturers are exponentially starting to move ahead of the traditional highly rated Japanese manufacturers.
Wrong I got one atlas 18 it beat all of them on everything except mpg child friendly space better than all except traverse has 1 extra inch 0 to 60 atlas got them also except explorer it’s turbo overall atlas beat them all mine it’s a vr6 old engine reliabilitygood not supper
jacobyo 99 you gotta actually drive them to know that Honda makes overall good cars compared to the rest but just like all carmakers they can make shit cars too just that people also know that watching a comparison video isn’t the same as buying and owning one for years which Honda is known for being reliable and durable which is why it gets a lot of biased love from reviews
In all honesty I own a 2019 Honda Accord and I agree with the Forward Collision is very sensitive however I turn off all my safety features because if you ARE paying attention, you shouldn’t be in harms way. I actually wish my car didn’t have them but that’s just me personally. I work for a Toyota dealer and a lot of people say the TSS is annoying and wish they could remove it. So many people don’t need nannies even though a lot of people do.
Maybe it's just me but I do try to pay attention all the time, but would like to have that added safety feature around me at all times. Twice during the past 5 years or so, I had close calls and both times, the sensors were quicker than me. Both times, I was not the cause of the problem.
John Bae Hey man everyone is entitled to do what they please and their own opinion. I just don’t want my car driving for me or braking for me. I’ve never had an accident.
These modern day safety mechanisms are there to help you for that one time. If they are annoying enough where drivers end ip shutting them off, no matter how good they actually work when needed, they have failed. I own 2015 odyssey and I do disable lane keep assist but leave FCW on. I have not found FCW to be overly sensitive but lane keep assist does get annoying.
A year ago I would have agreed with Dustin. I had a 2017 Kia Forte with Forward Collision Avoidance. This year a large van ran a red light when my daughter was driving through an intersection. There was not only no chance for her to avoid the accident, human reflexes physically could not have done anything before the crash. The auto break system engaged and while it did NOT prevent the crash it bled off a lot of kinetic energy before the impact. The end result was a totaled kia and my daughter walked away from the car without so much as a scratch. The impact without the breaking system would have been 2 vehicles at 90 degrees both at > 45 MPH, nearly head on. This is why I now have a 2020 Kia in my driveway with Forward Collision Avoidance enabled. I don't care how good a driver I am, if an active collision avoidance system can increase my chances of surviving a collision it's a win in my book.
highlander sucks. I own one but honestly, i only bought it cause it was the only hybrid with a third row. I could not convince the wife to get the pacifica plug-in as that was my top choice.
@@aiomixrecords And do funny things like changing the spelling on the bonnet from "Telluride" to "Tell_ur_dad" (with characters "a" and "d" from the "Palisade")
For any future car buying researchers, I ended up buying a VW Atlas, and have not regretted it, one year into ownership. It checked all of the boxes for me, and was larger inside than anything else I found.
The higher prices of the American brands can be explained by a couple things, one of them being UNION pay rates and the other being the discounts they will give if pushed. I doubt anyone is going to discount an Atlas like they would a Traverse.
After debating on which SUV to get, I got a 2020 Explorer Platinum black on black, all I have to say now is WOW, all the Technology I want and some, plenty of power with a twin turbo engine, could have made a better choice.
I wish the Ascent was wider. It’s disappointing that you guys don’t like the Subaru Ascent, so much hate. It is the safest car in this test and you don’t mention that. It is a fact not just a opinion that the Subaru is faster than the Telluride/Palisade. Disappointed in your words.
I agree with you, live mine a lot. If you factor in how much Kia and Hyundai dealers rob people over MSRP, then these cars come up to 55k. Try one of their dealerships, you’d think you’re somewhere trying to buy stollen wheels or a bag of coke.
We sat in a Palisade - for us the front window view felt narrow and limited. We are tall so perhaps that was a factor, but it was a reason to say no. We also did not like the interior. Lastly it was hard to even find a dealer with models in stock as they were selling fast - and at no discount. It is a nice looking vehicle from the outside.
VW Atlas is the best 3row SUV for 2021 IMO. I love this car. Very smooth, spacious, quiet and serene. Lots of space for entire family and very easy to drive around.
What I think you are overlooking is the ACTUAL price you can get these vehicles at. An explorer can be found for 8-10k below msrp. The Kia and Hyundai are going for msrp. I can’t afford $45+k. $36 is about my max. For that I can get an explorer xlt, convenience package, 20” rims, tow package with active X material. Oh, and the digital gauges. You can’t touch that with your top 3 picks. I am picking the explorer because of this as it actually carries the most value for the money.
Gary Bucci I bought an Atlas SE w/tech and it’s a way better deal then the Kia SX especially because you have to pay premium costs to own the top two trims of the Kia here in California. As a former kia owner I can say that in 5 years the value will drop and the reason will always be, “ because it’s a Kia”.
I test drove a 2020 Explorer XLT. It was pretty heavily optioned. Had sunroof leather wireless charger. All the safety tech. Just the 8.0 screen not 10. But it was amazing! So comfortable
It's official. Korean cars officially passed Japanese and Americans. and it's not just because of these 2 SUVs. It's all about the Genesis g80 and gv80. those 2 cars are gorgeous!
Thank you for this good comparison. Really detailed and informative test. I like that you also take the braking distance into consideration and pointed out very annoying features like the beeping chimes in the Subaru. I am surprised that the Honda has released cars on U.S. roads with a faulty emergency braking system.
Marc Kruse you can turn off the chimes. I own a 2020 ascent. The only thing I don’t like, is that there’s no switch to turn on all the interior lights at once.
After tons of research of which all agree my 2021 Palisade ranking in top 3 (some #1, Some #2 and some #3) across the board, and reading actual owner reviews, I pulled the trigger and got my 2021 Palisade. And I don't regret it for one second! I feel Hyundai (and Kia) are seriously under charging for these vehicles. Talk about VALUE! You get so much for your hard earned money! Styling, interior space, interior design, quality cabin materials, infotainment (love wireless Apple Car Play), cabin design, tech, accessories, engines, suspension, lighting, safety features....it's all tied in together in a near perfect package! If you are shopping for a 3 row/mid-sized SUV, you must include Palisade and Telluride on your short list. See for yourself. You won't regret it.
Not sure about the other vehicles but one long term problem with the current Gen Pilot is they are Direct Injected and the Intake Vales get really dirty so you also have to worry about maintaining the Intake Valves clean.
Speaking of the emergency Braking on the Honda, I can say I have the Honda CRV with the same system and the yellow light often goes off when the car in front turns off - but the actual brake doesn’t. The only time it has ever gone off is when going over a sharp dip in the road... Also complaining about the black interior overlooks that many vehicles have black, and the Pilot is also available in gray and beige. I don’t like black interiors myself.
I don’t blame you guys for not having the GMC Acadia in the test you don’t need 2 GM products in that test they’re too much the same and yes I know that the Palisade and Telluride are the same but they have different interiors and a better sounding V6 than GM’s
Actually the Acadia is a smaller vehicle than the Traverse. The latest Traverse keeps the similar size to the last Acadias, but in 2017, the new Acadia has become more of a slightly larger Terrain. That said, the new Acadia would have come in near tops in fuel economy. I rented one and it was averaging over 25 mpg in mixed driving through NJ, PA, NY, MD.
Thanks for the great "honest" reviews. As an American I want to support American car company but I learned that the CEO's are undercutting the auto works by using 80% of parts made in Asia and using cheaper parts the doesn't last. They only care about the bottom line resulting in stock prices so they get a nice bonus on the back of American who support them.
I felt like this was an honest review of 7 competitors by 3 individuals - I enjoyed it and I got some good info from it. Good job, and thank you. Now please add the 2020 Highlander to your comparison!!
What’s great mileage? I’m getting 25 mpg with my 6spd Pilot 2019 at 85mph and up to 27.5 mpg @ 75 and 28.5 mpg at 65mph but I rarely drive that speed limit , 20mpg in the city
@@reyperez3424 We had it on economy mode driving up from Florida to NH. We got 26 mpg with a fully packed back space in the vehicle. Most of the time driving between 70-80 mph. No city driving experience.
cline jansen Stop copying dumb people. The CVT transmission is fine. And that’s coming from someone that also has a 2017 F80 M3, 2006 911, and a 2020 STI in his garage.
PQR5CHE We own 2 new 2019 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL’s with CVT, we also had a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE with CVT, 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport GT with CVT, 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage ES with CVT and my co worker has a 2011 Mitsubishi Lancer CVT with 150,000 miles on it and no issues with any. My co workers daughter has 3 Subaru Impreza CVTs and no issues. Nissan seems to have a ton of issues with their CVTs but Mitsubishi and Subarus newer CVT are very good. Oddly enough Mitsubishi is Jatco CVT like Nissan but they have not had the issues Nissan had mostly with Altimas and Sentras.
@@timberlinecline3667 The biggest issues with most CVTs is that people don't get the oil changed when and how they're supposed to. That's the biggest reason they don't last long if they don't, and I would venture a guess that many people don't get their oil changed when they're supposed to and ensure it's the right oil being put in.
Just a quick question which suv will you recommend for all conditions use and cheap on mechanical and repairs also for heavy towing approx 2,000kg 3,000kg, fuel consumption, and for its value
Really interesting review. I'm surprised the brand new explorer did so poorly. One glaring challenge that will be interesting to see unfold is the huge disadvantage Ford and GM have in the marketplace due to the uaw. These vehicles are way overpriced. Granted there will be discounts. But if the domestics continue to be saddled with lavish pension obligations, they won't survive. For the highest prices they also have the shortest warranties. Even if the Korean cars have some repair issues, the warranty covers it. They are very good about honoring the warranty coverage in my experience.
asertiv1 Hyundai’s (who owns Kia) auto union is also very notorious in Korea and they strike every year demanding massive pay increase even in off years and already forced the company to ensure certain % of new employees to be from families of the current union members. Luckily, Telluride is made in Hyundai/Kia’s US factory, but I believe Palisade has strictly been produced in Ulsan, Korea so far.
We own a 2020 Palisade and we love it. Other than the early production propeller shaft replacement, this thing is rock solid and rides like a vehicle costing much more. We compared to the new Ford Explorer, but we couldn't get all the features we wanted (ventilated rear capt. seats) and the Explorer out the door was going to be over $60K. We paid $46.5K out the door with the tow package for the Palisade and after 14,000K miles of 1st year driving, we still love it and have had no other issues. I was concerned about depreciation, but just doing a quick KBB estimate comparing both cars, the Palisade Limited vs. Explorer Platinum I would have taken over a $17K depreciation hit vs. a $8K hit on our Palisade this first year. I'm glad I went with the Palisade.
1:33 #7 Honda Pilot
7:29 #6 Chevy Traverse
13:38 #5 Subaru Ascent
19:50 #4 Ford Explorer
25:07 #3 VW Atlas
29:22 #2 Hyundai Palisade
?? #1 Kia Telluride
Thank you.. huge time saver
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Hey Buddy! Palisade was #1.
@@whatchuwant77 Thats why he has #1 as Question mark …it means dt for him its Telluride as no 1 spot…and i do agree with him…Telluride is far more good looking vehicle as compared to palisade…..
@@udaypradhan1607 I prefer the Pali becsuse of its front end. The Tell looks like a Ford or common and The Pali has a unique two part daytime running lights that go along together. Also there are better colors than white for the Pali.
A time stamp should be standard practice for long videos like this please
Someone did it below
that feature came out 6 months after this was posted....
Do it yourself, whiner.
We drove the Palisade. Beautiful suv. It’s more than we need. We did get a 2020 Santa Fe SEL 2.0t. We absolutely love it. White with the espresso grey interior. Amazing interior. It all feels more up scale then you’d think a Hyundai to be. The 2.0t motor is great and the best choice. Test drive a 2.0t Santa Fe it’s worth a look. We also just got the new 2020 Hyundai Sonata limited. Great car. Love all the tech. Hyundai is changing the game.
Actually the opposite happened to me. We went to Hyundai to look at the Santa Fe and left with a palisade
This is why people need to stop judging Hyundai for their past and get with the program that they are now a top leading automaker that is reliable and while thought out the uses of its category or segment
inside the 2020 sonata is so beautiful
What most people don't know (or have forgotten) is that Honda and Toyota introduced junk cars into the US in the 70's, just as Hyundai and Kia did when they entered the US market. Today, Honda and Toyota are living on reputations they earned the hard way . . . from junk to quality vehicles. Today, Hyundai and Kia are putting value filled, attractive and quality built vehicles on the ground, and since I own both Kia (since 2015, a Sorento) and Hundai (since 2003, four Sonatas and one Santa Fe), I can, without reservation, say that they are two of the best brands I have ever owned.
Hyundai and Kia just changed the game with there 3 row suvs. So impressive
Blake Swan calm down they are newest her wait till honda and toyota redesign helll the korean cant beat honda and toyota sales even though they are old
Lol
@@gigi9467 The fact that Kia and Hyundai are increasing market share says volumes.
Blake Swan what about their reliability 🤣🤣🤣
Dominic R his gonna go quote jd power lol u know that pr firm cuz they will say what u want for enough money
And best Warranted by far!!!!
I’ve driven both the Kia and Hyundai. Equally impressed with both.
I prefer the Kia exterior and the Hyundai interior
Waiting for the Genesis suv
Same
I’m guessing the 3 row genesis won’t be out for 2 years
Genesis doesn’t deserve the premium in my opinion not worth the extra money
Genesis going to go from 55k to 77k compared to fully loaded kia 48k
@@al151 ulo mo
I own the Hyundai Palisade and it is amazing. I have owned many kinds of vehicles and I look forward to go driving in my Palisade more than any other including my Honda S2000. It is so comfortable, it is very refined and it feels modern. I tried all of these that you have here even the Durango and I hated how old they feel.
Nino Mendez give a couple
Of years and u will regret it..
Hey Jesus you are everywhere to give shit to Kia and Hyundai lol
@@gigi9467 yeah well if you did any kind of research regarding reliability the Korean cars rank near the top below toyota and subaru notice I didn't say honda... The rest are far below so no they won't break in a few years unlike the vw atlas or Chevy traverse with its garbage automatic
joe kang am trying to save ppl from shitty cars like i tried with My friends and families some listen some didn’t the ones that didn’t pay the price so you could thank me later ha ha
sad here we go again... Where did you get your research from JD Powers and associates you mean that PR firm because that’s what that thing is if you give them enough money they will say whatever you want from the products, Do you serve some real research talk to Real Mechanics with years of experience he’ll talk to the text that work for Hyundai and Kia and even they wouldn’t recommend it try doing some real research not just be a sheep
People have so much hate towards Hyundai and Kia! I mean it’s their time to shine, just like any other car brand...
Digo. I did 6 months in Kuang Ju close to the DMV VMFW 232 ( MARINE fighter jet, honing each others skills,) And have HUGE RESPECT FOR the North Koreans., and there work ethic, TOUGHNESS ect. I want their auto industry & TESLA TO THRIVE.. REST can follow or die out. Sick of their commercials anyway.
With a 60k Ford truck, the first 5k goes for ad's. With Tesla, the first 5k goes towards the car.
@@markwaters7802 North Koreans or the south?
@@ashutoshgupta546 Uhh S, of corse.
@@ashutoshgupta546 Oooo gosh I slipped. Just noticed I typed North, Damn!!!!😆
all i can say is im happy with my palisade,. i test drove almost everything in here except the subaru,. and im glad i choose my palisade,.
How much better than Pilot? And how?
Tony Kaye if you’ve seen a few Pilot reviews, you’ll realize that Honda dropped the ball. 2020 Pilot is far inferior to the Telluride, Palisade, Atlas and Explorer.
2020 Subaru Ascent limited is dope!
1. Acceleration is quick if you know how to use it. Use the paddle shifter to down shift and it takes off.
2. The top screen is not necessary but it does gives you a quick glance of other items in the infotainment. Especially when you have someone messing with the infotainment.
3. Beeping alerts. You can disable them! Not a valid complaint.
4) Storage. Are you moving in or driving? The center console is as large as you can gets. Door pockets give you extra storage. Anyone talk about the change tray? The glove box is small so I’ll give you that.
5) Third row seating. Why would you sit back there it’s meant for children?!
6) Plenty of cargo space without the third row. Use a roof rack if you need more. We are four and we learned that we could cut down how much we bring on road trips.
7) Other features. Auto-dim mirrors? Second row window shade. Extra vents in the third row? The kids love their own AC. Less complaining.
The Subaru Ascent is easy to drive surprisingly great around corners for its size. I think you should do a test drive with an actual family on all these cars.
Got chance to drive Kia Sorento couple of days ago, I really found the vehicle very practical, the button placement and ergonomically toughtout interior everything in car was very comfortable. Its smaller then the vehicles in the video and lacks cargo space when 3 row is up. Its a smaller telluride with few less bells and whistles.
Its very surprising that how well kia has improved in recent years.
I hear Kia bought up all the big name Japanese car designers and really started kickin' a$$ since then.
People love to hate on Korean long term reliability, but their 10 yr/100k powertrain warranty begs to differ. These are both very solid offerings from both makers!
Korea is not playing around! I knew they would be in the top.
TheJiggs666 until they start falling apart, but hey if u only keep them for 3 years or 50k miles than yea go right ahead
@@gigi9467 you need to get updated. They're well above average when you talk about reliability. Kia especially top 3.
kiwan82 you need to go talk to a mechanic and stop reading this pr companies like jd powers.
@@gigi9467 even BMW or Audi mechanics talk shit about their brands. You need to see things more realistic than believe whatever those mechanics say. I trust real world statistics like CR or JD Power rather than your Bullshito.
kiwan82 jd or cr?? Thats who u trust?? Lol those those teo are pr firms not trustworthy reviewers, and am not
Talking bout mechanics of their own bronda i mean any mechanic will never tell that korean are better built than a japanese car nor recommnend it, here proof, why do they depreciate so much?? Riddle me that
When you see a Kia Telluride in person, pictures don’t do it justice. It’s gorgeous! Looks so rugged and upscale. Actually better looking and more practical than the Mercedes G-Wagon. Yes I said it! It’s got more reliable and user friendly tech than even the luxury brands.
Plus the Hyundai/Kia best warranty in the business, best fuel economy and cheapest to own brand new.
I think the same thing is true about the Palisade - it looks better in person than in pictures, mainly because it's not as big as it might seem. I just picked up a white Limited AWD (had an order for Feb/Mar delivery but someone backed out on a car with the exact spec so the dealership sold it to me) and I truly love this car.
@@GordonGEICO same as genesis g90 2019
Isaac Kamau it’s the ugliest one. In a couple years, it’ll be in the Gremlin category
nowadays we tend to saw a bunch of bots lately.........
AABPwannable_alpha hyuk you write like a russian
Kia and Hyundai became excellent examples of what a learning organization is all about. Awesome job with the Palisade.
That telluride 🔥
The time I saw kia and hyundai, I knew these will rank 1st and 2nd...
Firas Alwakeel the day i saw it i new they were unreliable.
@@gigi9467 Unreliable car companies would go bankrupt with the best power train warranty in the industry, along with Mitsubishi.
Bob Dylan lol look lets get one thing strait, almost any company can build an ok engine and tranny this days. But the rest is the problem and the reality is that as long as the car turns on ppl dont have the time to take them to get warrantied so they live with it they jusr dont buy them again, but that affects them because no return companies and as a simple
Proof is why they depreciate so much. They ares still second rate manufacturers at best.
Jesus H Medrano it’s clear that you’re mad for no reason
Jesus H Medrano
Did Hyundai hurt you that bad?
Owner of the 2020 Palisade here, in the trim shown in the video...OMG i feel like im in AND driving a MUCH more exp vehicle. Traded in a MB GL and this is on par or, dare i say, BETTER!!
It looks like a Mercedes no?
@@Tonykayemusic BETTER than MB
Pietro Parker what are you betting in actually mpg
@@tonibrown9362 this is where the Palisade loses a few points. My MB was a diesel and I was getting 26-27 mpg on the highway and 17-19 mpg city. In the Palisade I'm getting only 23-25 mpg highway and 17-18 city. The MB is 10yo vehicle so Hyundai has no excuse, but in what you are getting here I can let it go.
Also the fact that 80s and 90s cars were giving us better gas mileage than today's.... It's all just marketing scam for us consumers in the end anyway😩😩
Kudos Hyundai/Kia!!! If I had a need for a vehicle this size, I'd totally snag myself a Telluride
Why not palisade it's good to
Julius McDow if your gonna keep it for
Longer than 50k or 3 years do urself a favor and wait for the redesigned honda or toyota
@@msyachbaniskandar8849 Kia just looks better to me lol
@@juelzm149 for me hyundai look better
M Syachban Iskandar morning
Recently took Hyundai Palisade for a ride completely fell in love with it! Exterior design elements like bow type led lights, diamond style exhaust, interior was my favourite! Front console was so ergonomic. No million buttons like a spaceship, minimalist, perfectly placed, very responsive. Steering range shocked me, cause me driving mustang, was able to turn in some sharp angle parking spots. Despite the size I felt in control, not like on Escalade, when I feel like on a cruise ship. I am 6’2’’ and I felt very comfortable there. Most likely will get it in a couple years. Wasn’t surprised with the winner ;)
Kudos to Hyundai and Kia!! To all those Hyundai/Kia haters, y'all keep laughing and bashing but nothing is gonna change for Hyundai and Kia to go on top of the sales chart!!!
Have you tried to lease one of these two vehicles? The lease packages are ridiculous, it appears from the residual value Hyundai believes the vehicle is worthless after a 3 year lease. You can lease an Acadia Denali or a Chevy Traverse High Country or a Cadillac XT6 cheaper!!
Great and thorough review! I just took delivery of a 2021 fully loaded Palisade Calligraphy, and I am absolutely blown away. I drove the other cars just to be sure, and NOTHING came even close to its value, tech, beauty, quality, and features! Except its own cousin, the telluride of course. I chose the palisade because I love the extra bits of nicer features you get. Hyundai/Kia even give you a generous 10 year warranty, and 3 years of complimentary maintenance. Theyre also officially the top 3 row SUVs for resale value. And Hyundai/Kia have dramatically improved in reliability as well. If you buy ANY 3 row SUV other than the palisade or telluride, you are truly missing out
Did anyone hear anything about reliabilty?
Why did they stress the Ascent having a small amount of space overall while forgetting to mention the Kia is even smaller, especially in trunk storage?
They also quickly glossed over the top two haveing the lowest car seat scores.
For relaiblity as of hyundai and Kia they provide 10 year/100k powertrain warranty…..which i think no other manufacturer gives….
@@udaypradhan1607 I bought a used Ascent and for $1099 I'm able to get 72k more powertrain warranty on top of 20k mileage already in the car. Also, as of 2022, Palisade and Telluride will cost upward of $10k-15k more than MSRP. Good lucky getting on that can be of value.
I thought that Telluride was the best looking SUV Koreans ever made until i saw the new Genesis GV80. I will be getting the GV80.
Same....
But telluride is bigger than gv80. Just wait for gv90 also there is upcoming gv70 and refresh model of g80
kia telluride no 1 award 2020
Tellurides are made in Georgia!
GV80 look wise to me is 👎🏽 thats just my opinion tho
One thing i notice on all of these reviews is that the reviewers always tout the cost of the Kia as being so much less than the competition. That sounds great! When you "build" a vehicle on their respective websites this may be true. Once you walk into a dealership, you'll find that they are marking these things up 5-10k above MSRP right off the bat. The supply is very limited and the demand, probably fueled by so many positive online reviews, is extremely high. I've driven and looked at the new highlander, telluride, ascent, explorer, and pilot. The Kia ends up being the most expensive once you "negotiate" with the dealerships. Your experience may be different, but this is what I experienced in socal.
Thank you for mentioning this. Two years ago we tried to buy a telluride, the prices were even then (this was before everything went insane) above MSRP. Compare that to getting an Atlas and they could go significantly below MSRP
Just a hint for future. Subaru Ascent Owner's Manual is your best friend. Page 115 "Customizing functions". It says that there is a button "Info/SET" on the steering wheel. Park and press it and you can minimize or turn off beeping feature by feature looking on the screen. It's all ON by default but you can adjust it
The Kia Telluride on paper is the cheapest price but here in Southern California they are not. They are being sold for a premium and you get no rebates or incentives. I’d like to add that that is only for the SX or S model because those are the desired trims.
I really feel much better now that I watched your video.
I just bought a 2021 palisade last week. Thank you for your honest review.
I'm loving my Palisade . I first wanted the Telluride as I preferred the exterior look but after seeing them on the road (seeing them everywhere) I find myself looking to see if its a land rover or kia. I dont want my car compared to another. The Palaside looks very unique.
This is helpful:
1:33 #7 Honda Pilot
7:29 #6 Chevy Traverse
13:38 #5 Subaru Ascent
19:50 #4 Ford Explorer
25:07 #3 VW Atlas
29:22 #2 Hyundai Palisade
?? #1 Kia Telluride
Palluride for the win 🙋🏻♂️💯🇵🇭
I agree with these boys... Hands down winners, Hyundai and Kia... Y'all Hyunda/Kia haters keep laughing... Now, who's laughing?? Kia Telluride is da bomb!!! I know 5 out of 10 of my buddies all traded their cars and got this telluride SX!!
Estrading Co telluride is so ugly. It’s not going to age well
I ordered my Telluride 2 weeks ago. I can't wait til it get here.
@@candyjohnson3302 Weird I find telluride to be good looking and palisade to be ugly.
Palisade is the best got it last week pearl white baby:)
got one too best for my family
How much did cost out the door
101babyjam here in lincolnwood illinois 42,578
*nice*
@@jka2608 how was your experience there ? I saw reviews and they're not great
Honestly, they're all great in their own way... But the best one for me is the Traverse. Just give me that!
Same the traverse has high reliability, 3 third row seats, and doesn’t look ugly like the Kia Telluride
@@Texasjohn55596 i think the coolest lookin is the atlas but my choice palisade because of the venitiladed 2nd row seats and general interior quality
@@Texasjohn55596 lol traverse ain't reliable. My neighbor had one and ir sinr make it past 50k miles
telluride is amazing. beautiful car
dltmdwnfkdldjs it looks beautiful but trust me, I have been in it and it feels sooo cheap 😫
@@girlgotwheels Disagree! I was very impressed with the tellurides interior. nicer than the Toyota highlander
@@custer175 well i call that BS, but i would have to respect your choice though!
Highlander is way better in terms of quality, features and logevity!, also toyota is outselling any other brand over the years, so i will go with Toyota all day
Sohrab Eshaqzai only time will tell how the Telluride and Palisade would rank about reliability and longevity.
I have been inside of Telluride and did not like it at all. It felt cheap to me. I ended up getting a Chevy Traverse 2021 and like it so far. It is very comfortable and has a very logical internal layout.
Let's see how kia and Hyundai do well with the engine. Are they going to be dependable like Honda or Toyota?
I have 2009 Honda Pilot, over 250k miles and still running like new.
mine too! 298K! After 3 years when those Kias and Hyundais are back at the repair shops constantly they will come to Toyotas and Hondas.
@@djnervs well just to let you know my dad has a 2017 kia forte with over 360k clicks on it and it still drives fine no major repairs so far. You better try one before saying anything
@@bilalsaeed8510 Wow 360k in 3 years? that's one hell of a cross-country trip...in a Forte...
@@djnervsyeah he actually drives it in Uber but trust me kia is not what it used to be
@@bilalsaeed8510 I don't hate the brand. I just know by experience on Hondas and Toyotas my family owns mostly these brands but If your dads Kia is still going strong then that's a good way to get a hell of a rep, I'm all for it bro. Its good to have other options based on that.
Trying not to sound like a Honda fanboy, but all I heard about the Honda was that they put it at last rank. It was average across the board and had an all black interior, as if that puts it below all the negatives brought on by the Chevy and as if you can't get a different a different color/trim. That sounded like "let's just put Honda at the bottom because we can." If it's basically "middle of the road," then it should be in the middle group. Having said that I do NOT like the new Pilots compared to my '03. They've taken away a lot of what makes that car appealing, except improved on the outside styling. I still have my '03 and it's got around 293k miles on it. Space has never been an issue, except in the 3rd row seating, but cargo was unbeaten for the longest time. It's center console has best-in-class space usage (something that messed up after the '04 models.
Its weird that large SUVs are extremely popular here in Australia yet none of these are sold here..
I want a new Explorer or Telluride damn it! lol
You guys have Prado which is superior in my opinion.
@@johnconnor4953 It is a superior 4x4 by a mile but its pretty unnecessary for soccer mums. These American SUV's are far nicer family haulers.
Although I'd take a station wagon over the lot of them lol
Its nice that y'all review the cars but why does everyone review the top trims if anything most people will buy the second lowest or even the lowest trims.
Jonah Keszler , actually the best seller is the loaded limited models, people love to spend money!
Well for purposes of reviews they have to test top trim to show whats the most thats offered
@@toddkost people are also stupid too.
My wife had a 2013 Traverse. It was a great vehicle. Good in the snow. It was VERY reliable (surprisingly). Over the course of 90,000, we didn't drop a dime on a repair outside of wear items. She loved it. We looked at the new Traverse and it just didn't stack up at all against the vehicle we ended up buying: The Palisade Calligraphy. Short of the Kia, I don't think there is anything close. It is a gorgeous vehicle, rides well and has a ton of tech. We've only owned it two weeks, but as for reliability, I'm not too worried as we have a bumper to bumper, 100,000 mile warranty.
I just purchased a 2021 Palisade and couldn't' agree with you more! What an outstanding vehicle at an outstanding price.
@@johnherrera7551 I was just speaking with a coworker who purchased a Palisade Limited a few months ago. He couldn't believe that my wife and I purchased a Calligraphy cheaper than he paid for his Limited. We paid about $1500 less than he did. LOL
I saw Hyandai and Kia's SUVs for the first time a few months ago. Didn't know they even existed. I did a a very hard double take. And the amazing unique names plasted in them. I really like them. Probably would never get one though.
Aryrix 1 if you like them, why not? I will certainly consider both Telluride and Palisade when my kids will be old enough for us to be able to move off from our minivan in 2-3 years. We love our Honda Odyssey but I don’t like driving it when I am not hauling the whole family.
The Kia Telluride SX is almost impossible to get right now. The wait list to spec one out is about 6 months right now. Plus most dealers in the North East are charging $5,000 to $20,000 over sticker price for the Telluride SXP. You can’t get any discount at all from any dealers across the country for the upper trim levels of the Telluride.
All of the other vehicles are easy to get the way you want them and most have massive discounts. This should be a factor in most people’s decision that doesn’t show up in this test.
Crazy to think people are actually paying $5K above MSRP for any vehicle let alone a Kia/Hyundai which none of the reviewers mention the elephant in the room...depreciation which Kia and Hyundai are terrible at.
Yup, they wanted me to pay 5k over one. Their dealerships are usually low end, still same people that sold cheap Kias and Hyundais back in the days where they paid you to take one. They were a bunch of thugs that wanted me to sign papers without knowing what I was getting and even wanted to make me pay for the warranty. If these cars look like an Audi doesn’t mean you get luxury brand experience. Thanks, but I’ll stick to other than Kia and Hyundai, even if I’m getting a “lesser” car.
Been shopping this segment really seriously and have looked at or driven almost all of these excluding the explorer. Palisade is the nicest of the group hands down (then the Kia Telluride). The Subaru, Honda, VW, and Chevy all give a feeling of being in a top trim Impreza, Civic, Jetta, or Cruze and to be honest they're all getting a bit dated feeling inside. The Palisade Limited comes really close to Mercedes or BMW levels or refinement and in some ways surpasses them.
The biggest omission here in my opinion is that "Midsize" 3-row segment has really grown into another size all together and these are really more of large SUV's and the Acadia, Sorrento, or Tiguan are more midsize.
I did enjoy your points though about the virtual rear view mirrors. Hadn't considered how the human eye would be required to refocus vs a normal mirror. Can certainly see this being an issue for people!
The GM Triplets: Chevy Traverse, GMC Acadia, and Buick Enclave are bigger than you think they are. (Especially the Traverse)
@@chuckers40Traverse and Enclave are absolutely large. In fact the same as the Tahoe/Yukon in length. The Acadia is 10 inches shorter.
These are all $44-46K on cars dot com right now. While these are limited to economy versions of the name plate, Acura MDX is as low as $51K and Buick Enclave Avenir AWD is probably the best of the bunch at $47K.
I like the Kyundai Tellusade
Korea is improving every day and people start to recognize them, from car to music to movie such as Parasite
Nicee, I loved parasite too. Dope ass movie.
I've been looking for cars recently and this is the best damn review I've come across all month. I really wish you would do a video with the Honda Passport and the Mazda CX-9.
I've recently test driven a few of these (Atlas, Palisade, Ascent) and a Durango and I think I'm buying the one you didn't like - the Ascent!
I want to be able to tow a small travel trailer - both the Kia and Hyundai's tow packages only come with 4 pin adapters and no brake controller - meaning an extra headache if I wanted to tow anything. The Ascent is pre-wired and read to go - plug and play brake controller. The Durango just felt ... old, with a cramped interior.
I also want to own it for a decade or more - the VW isn't likely to last that long. Only time will tell if Kia and Hyundai will. Subaru is likely going to be fine.
I drove the Ascent today - definitely didn't feel darty or slow in comparison, seats were perfectly comfortable. Definitely not as luxurious as the Palisade, though.
Different strokes for different folks!
We bought the Ascent as well. Touring trim.
They didn’t mention 4 wheel drive on each vehicle.
Just bought my Ascent and it’s a really nice car that just works. No bells and whistles but sturdy and safe and big enough for me and my two toddlers, not planning on throwing any parties in there. I had the Atlas before and don’t think it drives any better and the interior feels extremely cheap. The only thing I concur with is that the Ascent engine is pretty loud.
Maybe you didn't test drive the AWD palisade but just the FWD one.palisade calligraphy has it all.
@@jackcollin1695 Definitely AWD. I ended up doing what I wasn't expecting at all and bought a truck - towing capacity on any big SUV just wasn't where I needed it for the trailer I ultimately wanted to buy
Honda is dropping the ball on Honda’s and Acura’s. I never hear people tell me they’ve purchased an Acura. According to the CR ratings, Acura is in one of the last three bottom overall ratings for reliability.
I find it interesting so many reviewers rank the Atlas so high. It’s ranked low in reliability and lots of plastic. My neighbor bought an Atlas and I wasn’t impressed. Both Korean manufacturers are exponentially starting to move ahead of the traditional highly rated Japanese manufacturers.
Honda, and Acura, have been dropping for a decade now.
Wrong I got one atlas 18 it beat all of them on everything except mpg child friendly space better than all except traverse has 1 extra inch 0 to 60 atlas got them also except explorer it’s turbo overall atlas beat them all mine it’s a vr6 old engine reliabilitygood not supper
so the winner is...
The Palluride
Telluride
Shenji Tan They were being facetious.
Tellusade
Kiundai Palluride
@@aquaman1077 wtf? 😂
I don't know what happened to the evaluation that based on reliability, motor and transmission technology, Honda pilot is my first choice
I actually saw a Telluride in real life and it looks so good in person. I want one, but I have my eyes on the GV80 from Genesis :)
Me to! However, I couldn't afford something like unfortunately.
@@davidshanley558 yes you can Dream it first see yourself driving it and believe it's yours
The Palisade front and center in the thumbnail as it should be
I almost spit out my drink when Honda finished last because usually these comparisons are extremely biased towards Honda
bias towards vs bias against.
Robert Duklus towards, as in they like Honda. Bias against would mean they do not like Honda.
It’s old and has a crap V6 and horrible 9 speed and bad infotainment what’s so hard to see that it’s not better than the rest like Hyundai and Subaru
SavagexRaccoon it’s not hard to see! I’m saying that car reviewers LOVE Honda for no reason
jacobyo 99 you gotta actually drive them to know that Honda makes overall good cars compared to the rest but just like all carmakers they can make shit cars too just that people also know that watching a comparison video isn’t the same as buying and owning one for years which Honda is known for being reliable and durable which is why it gets a lot of biased love from reviews
Just bought my Telluride SX 2021. Incredible vehicle. Safety features and warranty are best in show.
In all honesty I own a 2019 Honda Accord and I agree with the Forward Collision is very sensitive however I turn off all my safety features because if you ARE paying attention, you shouldn’t be in harms way. I actually wish my car didn’t have them but that’s just me personally. I work for a Toyota dealer and a lot of people say the TSS is annoying and wish they could remove it. So many people don’t need nannies even though a lot of people do.
Maybe it's just me but I do try to pay attention all the time, but would like to have that added safety feature around me at all times. Twice during the past 5 years or so, I had close calls and both times, the sensors were quicker than me. Both times, I was not the cause of the problem.
John Bae Hey man everyone is entitled to do what they please and their own opinion. I just don’t want my car driving for me or braking for me. I’ve never had an accident.
These modern day safety mechanisms are there to help you for that one time. If they are annoying enough where drivers end ip shutting them off, no matter how good they actually work when needed, they have failed. I own 2015 odyssey and I do disable lane keep assist but leave FCW on. I have not found FCW to be overly sensitive but lane keep assist does get annoying.
velvin9 I don’t like any of them and have them all turned off. It’s just a personal preference. They’re overly intrusive.
A year ago I would have agreed with Dustin. I had a 2017 Kia Forte with Forward Collision Avoidance. This year a large van ran a red light when my daughter was driving through an intersection. There was not only no chance for her to avoid the accident, human reflexes physically could not have done anything before the crash. The auto break system engaged and while it did NOT prevent the crash it bled off a lot of kinetic energy before the impact. The end result was a totaled kia and my daughter walked away from the car without so much as a scratch. The impact without the breaking system would have been 2 vehicles at 90 degrees both at > 45 MPH, nearly head on. This is why I now have a 2020 Kia in my driveway with Forward Collision Avoidance enabled. I don't care how good a driver I am, if an active collision avoidance system can increase my chances of surviving a collision it's a win in my book.
Like to see one that included the 2020 Highlander. Comparison of the transmission/ Engine with Palaside and Telluride.
Was wondering where Toyota is too! Thought the highlander would top the list, but it was nonexistent 😢
@Harry Fishnuts and you can keep it for 20 years if you want to
highlander sucks. I own one but honestly, i only bought it cause it was the only hybrid with a third row. I could not convince the wife to get the pacifica plug-in as that was my top choice.
Apparently Toyota is not a major player, they are fools.
@@OGGuy-xb1yk did you watch the video, they explained why Highlander wasn't on here cuz they said it wouldn't place well
Good to know the Atlas is holding up well. I really like them.
How the heck did the transverse get on top over the pilot?
The Pilot is a bottom feeder as is most of the Honda lineup.
I want Palisade's digital instrument in Telluride
aiomix buy palisade 🤪
@@popsandbangs8858 good idea, buy both then swap the digital instruments haha
@@aiomixrecords And do funny things like changing the spelling on the bonnet from "Telluride" to "Tell_ur_dad" (with characters "a" and "d" from the "Palisade")
For any future car buying researchers, I ended up buying a VW Atlas, and have not regretted it, one year into ownership. It checked all of the boxes for me, and was larger inside than anything else I found.
The higher prices of the American brands can be explained by a couple things, one of them being UNION pay rates and the other being the discounts they will give if pushed. I doubt anyone is going to discount an Atlas like they would a Traverse.
After debating on which SUV to get, I got a 2020 Explorer Platinum black on black, all I have to say now is WOW, all the Technology I want and some, plenty of power with a twin turbo engine, could have made a better choice.
I wish the Ascent was wider. It’s disappointing that you guys don’t like the Subaru Ascent, so much hate. It is the safest car in this test and you don’t mention that. It is a fact not just a opinion that the Subaru is faster than the Telluride/Palisade. Disappointed in your words.
It’s the most compact out of the lineup. Great turn radius with a shorter wheelbase. And small children fit just fine.
I agree with you, live mine a lot. If you factor in how much Kia and Hyundai dealers rob people over MSRP, then these cars come up to 55k. Try one of their dealerships, you’d think you’re somewhere trying to buy stollen wheels or a bag of coke.
We sat in a Palisade - for us the front window view felt narrow and limited. We are tall so perhaps that was a factor, but it was a reason to say no. We also did not like the interior. Lastly it was hard to even find a dealer with models in stock as they were selling fast - and at no discount. It is a nice looking vehicle from the outside.
These koreans give german car feeling along with japanese reliability.
They do? We've had two Koreans in the family. About 60-70k miles. Engine just randomly locked up and died. Common issue with Kia
VW Atlas is the best 3row SUV for 2021 IMO. I love this car. Very smooth, spacious, quiet and serene. Lots of space for entire family and very easy to drive around.
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Vw aren’t reliable
@@reyperez3424 No issues at all. Where did you get your info on reliability?
Question,
Is there a heads up display in the Telluride?
Best of luck getting the Ford and VW fixed. The Palisade was a real surprise and seemed much more upscale that the others.
Loved the format of this show - thank you!
What I think you are overlooking is the ACTUAL price you can get these vehicles at. An explorer can be found for 8-10k below msrp. The Kia and Hyundai are going for msrp. I can’t afford $45+k. $36 is about my max. For that I can get an explorer xlt, convenience package, 20” rims, tow package with active X material. Oh, and the digital gauges. You can’t touch that with your top 3 picks. I am picking the explorer because of this as it actually carries the most value for the money.
Gary Bucci I bought an Atlas SE w/tech and it’s a way better deal then the Kia SX especially because you have to pay premium costs to own the top two trims of the Kia here in California. As a former kia owner I can say that in 5 years the value will drop and the reason will always be, “ because it’s a Kia”.
thank god for the Subaru safety systems. They kept me out of trouble several times
Subaru drivers are the worst!
I wondered about the Subaru eyesight system. I have driven the Ascent. Thanks for pointing out problems. I think their Outback is a better suv.
I test drove a 2020 Explorer XLT. It was pretty heavily optioned. Had sunroof leather wireless charger. All the safety tech. Just the 8.0 screen not 10. But it was amazing! So comfortable
It'll break down after 3 years or 40,000 miles.
It's official. Korean cars officially passed Japanese and Americans. and it's not just because of these 2 SUVs. It's all about the Genesis g80 and gv80. those 2 cars are gorgeous!
To me you guys could have add the Mazda to make it 8. Especially now it has a update center screen and heated and cool seat and still looks beautiful.
Thank you for this good comparison. Really detailed and informative test. I like that you also take the braking distance into consideration and pointed out very annoying features like the beeping chimes in the Subaru. I am surprised that the Honda has released cars on U.S. roads with a faulty emergency braking system.
Marc Kruse you can turn off the chimes. I own a 2020 ascent. The only thing I don’t like, is that there’s no switch to turn on all the interior lights at once.
@@timothypatrick7030 Literature claims one touch illumination in 3 of the 4 Ascent trims except the base trim
My Wife and I test drove the 2020 kia Telluride. We loved it so decided to get a 2021 KIA Telluride
Telluride is like National Geographic.
After tons of research of which all agree my 2021 Palisade ranking in top 3 (some #1, Some #2 and some #3) across the board, and reading actual owner reviews, I pulled the trigger and got my 2021 Palisade. And I don't regret it for one second! I feel Hyundai (and Kia) are seriously under charging for these vehicles. Talk about VALUE! You get so much for your hard earned money! Styling, interior space, interior design, quality cabin materials, infotainment (love wireless Apple Car Play), cabin design, tech, accessories, engines, suspension, lighting, safety features....it's all tied in together in a near perfect package! If you are shopping for a 3 row/mid-sized SUV, you must include Palisade and Telluride on your short list. See for yourself. You won't regret it.
Haven't watched the video but it's the telluride I love the telluride
Not sure about the other vehicles but one long term problem with the current Gen Pilot is they are Direct Injected and the Intake Vales get really dirty so you also have to worry about maintaining the Intake Valves clean.
That issue with the auto braking in the Pilot would disqualify it for me.
I'm not a big fan of the interior of the Pilot.
And Subaru...
the auto eng idle stop/start keeps me away from pilot or passport.
@@Gary65437 pretty soon you won't have a choice...
I don’t get it why wasn’t Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade or Expedition/Navigator included ?
They are considered full size SUV's (truck based body frame)
Kia and Hyundai have been killing it in the last few years. At this rate the only reason people wouldnt buy is because they don't know.
Big Facts!
I think Three-Row SUV should always have smooth ride quality and Telluride really done it well.
The winner is noneother than the world car of the year- it's Telluride 😍
I own a sx in white pearl with black wheels best suv in the market for sure ! We test drove many suvs!
Speaking of the emergency Braking on the Honda, I can say I have the Honda CRV with the same system and the yellow light often goes off when the car in front turns off - but the actual brake doesn’t. The only time it has ever gone off is when going over a sharp dip in the road... Also complaining about the black interior overlooks that many vehicles have black, and the Pilot is also available in gray and beige. I don’t like black interiors myself.
I don’t blame you guys for not having the GMC Acadia in the test you don’t need 2 GM products in that test they’re too much the same and yes I know that the Palisade and Telluride are the same but they have different interiors and a better sounding V6 than GM’s
Lavonte A that’s exactly like the traverse and Acadia
Actually the Acadia is a smaller vehicle than the Traverse. The latest Traverse keeps the similar size to the last Acadias, but in 2017, the new Acadia has become more of a slightly larger Terrain. That said, the new Acadia would have come in near tops in fuel economy. I rented one and it was averaging over 25 mpg in mixed driving through NJ, PA, NY, MD.
Thanks for the great "honest" reviews. As an American I want to support American car company but I learned that the CEO's are undercutting the auto works by using 80% of parts made in Asia and using cheaper parts the doesn't last. They only care about the bottom line resulting in stock prices so they get a nice bonus on the back of American who support them.
Telluride> everything else
I felt like this was an honest review of 7 competitors by 3 individuals - I enjoyed it and I got some good info from it. Good job, and thank you. Now please add the 2020 Highlander to your comparison!!
No mention of the Lincoln aviator?
Different segment
We bought a 2020 Telluride last year. We agree it gets great gas mileage. Love the interior. The warranty was another attractive feature for us.
What’s great mileage?
I’m getting 25 mpg with my 6spd Pilot 2019 at 85mph and up to 27.5 mpg @ 75 and 28.5 mpg at 65mph but I rarely drive that speed limit , 20mpg in the city
@@reyperez3424 We had it on economy mode driving up from Florida to NH. We got 26 mpg with a fully packed back space in the vehicle. Most of the time driving between 70-80 mph. No city driving experience.
Why wasn't the Dodge Durango included in this video? I see these things EVERYWHERE.
Just an impressive video. Thank a lot for making this. Could you guys make a such video for trucks?
We bought a Ascent and we love it! The can do all feel of the Ascent is what is great about that car.
Until the CVT transmission fall's apart
cline jansen Stop copying dumb people. The CVT transmission is fine. And that’s coming from someone that also has a 2017 F80 M3, 2006 911, and a 2020 STI in his garage.
PQR5CHE We own 2 new 2019 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL’s with CVT, we also had a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE with CVT, 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport GT with CVT, 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage ES with CVT and my co worker has a 2011 Mitsubishi Lancer CVT with 150,000 miles on it and no issues with any. My co workers daughter has 3 Subaru Impreza CVTs and no issues. Nissan seems to have a ton of issues with their CVTs but Mitsubishi and Subarus newer CVT are very good. Oddly enough Mitsubishi is Jatco CVT like Nissan but they have not had the issues Nissan had mostly with Altimas and Sentras.
@@kmckenzie2461 its all about tuning. Nissan has a retarded engineering department.
@@timberlinecline3667 The biggest issues with most CVTs is that people don't get the oil changed when and how they're supposed to. That's the biggest reason they don't last long if they don't, and I would venture a guess that many people don't get their oil changed when they're supposed to and ensure it's the right oil being put in.
Im surprised there is no mention of the Highlander. Have had one for about a year and its been a fantastic vehicle.
How'd they manage to leave out the Mazda CX-9. It's hardly a slouch in anyway for you to omit.
omeer rahman the Highlander too
Just a quick question which suv will you recommend for all conditions use and cheap on mechanical and repairs also for heavy towing approx 2,000kg 3,000kg, fuel consumption, and for its value
Really interesting review. I'm surprised the brand new explorer did so poorly. One glaring challenge that will be interesting to see unfold is the huge disadvantage Ford and GM have in the marketplace due to the uaw. These vehicles are way overpriced. Granted there will be discounts. But if the domestics continue to be saddled with lavish pension obligations, they won't survive. For the highest prices they also have the shortest warranties. Even if the Korean cars have some repair issues, the warranty covers it. They are very good about honoring the warranty coverage in my experience.
asertiv1 Hyundai’s (who owns Kia) auto union is also very notorious in Korea and they strike every year demanding massive pay increase even in off years and already forced the company to ensure certain % of new employees to be from families of the current union members. Luckily, Telluride is made in Hyundai/Kia’s US factory, but I believe Palisade has strictly been produced in Ulsan, Korea so far.
We own a 2020 Palisade and we love it. Other than the early production propeller shaft replacement, this thing is rock solid and rides like a vehicle costing much more. We compared to the new Ford Explorer, but we couldn't get all the features we wanted (ventilated rear capt. seats) and the Explorer out the door was going to be over $60K. We paid $46.5K out the door with the tow package for the Palisade and after 14,000K miles of 1st year driving, we still love it and have had no other issues. I was concerned about depreciation, but just doing a quick KBB estimate comparing both cars, the Palisade Limited vs. Explorer Platinum I would have taken over a $17K depreciation hit vs. a $8K hit on our Palisade this first year. I'm glad I went with the Palisade.